Xavier Samuel is
that rare breed of Australian actor; the kind who regularly returns to
Oz despite a burgeoning film career abroad. He won an MTV Movie Award
for his villainous performance in The Twilight Saga: Eclipse, but in 2012 he came back to our shores for local productions Bait 3D and A Few Best Men. He now lends his talents to Morgan O’Neill and Ben Nott‘s surf flick Drift, in
which he and producer Myles Pollard play the Kelly brothers; star
surfers who launch an equipment business from their shed. The duo is
joined by Sam Worthington,
as a roaming photographer – sort of a bearded beach Yoda- who dispenses
all kinds of bodacious advice. Ahead of the picture’s release in
cinemas, I spoke with Xavier about his surfing lessons – which he
describes as being like a “drunk seventeen year-old in high heels” – as
well as the box office expectations of Australian features, and
particularly the financial failures of his horror film The Loved Ones. We also discussed his upcoming flick Two Mothers - wherein he sparks an affair with his mother’s (Naomi Watts) best friend (Robin Wright) - one of the most notorious movies to screen at this year’s Sundance Film Festival.
SM: This isn’t your first surfing movie.
XS: No, I did another one called Newcastle.
SM: I’m curious, personally, are you much of a surfer? Do you follow the sport? Or is this just coincidence?
XS: I grew up in Adelaide, so I never really got out amongst it. One
of the things I learnt on that film was if you turn your back on the
ocean, it would smash you. So I knew enough about it. Basically, as soon
as I found out about Drift, I surfed every day and was
introduced to a bunch of crazy, eccentric dudes who surfed in the ’70s,
and kind of got a feel for that world.
SM: So you had to do a bit of prep then?
XS: Yeah. Largely, it was learning how to tow-surf, because it’s not
as economical to paddle for every wave, because you just get too tired,
and they can only shoot it three or four times. I don’t know if you know
much about it – I didn’t either – but tow-surfing is like you’re water
skiing, and it takes you to the perfect point of the wave, and you just
let go and coast down it like that. That process is kind of tricky to
learn, because you have to stand on a surfboard in still water, before
the jet ski takes off. At the time that I was learning, I looked like a
newborn calf, or a drunk seventeen-year-old in high-heels. That process
was awesome, and I took to it relatively quickly, and was out there
swimming and stuff straight away. The thing that you can’t really learn
is the stamina. You have to just get it, and that’s when you feel
safer. It was different for me, because I had three jet skis that
grabbed me and would take me off again; get dumped and go off again.
It’s a different experience to just going out with mates.
SM: Going back to casting, did you audition, or was an offer put out to you?
XS: I didn’t know this, but Myles – who also produced the film – was
saying I was on a list, because they’ve been thinking about this for
seven years, and my name had popped up as far back as then. A lot of
films happened in between then, and it just so happens that I was free
at the time. I spoke with Morgan O’Neill, who’s an actor, director, and
great writer, and he said – and I hope it’s what a lot of people
understand – “the surf is secondary to the story and this is a dramatic
film about two brothers.” I’ve got a younger brother, and our
relationship sort of mirrors the one in the film, except I’m more the
‘Andy’ character and he’s more the ‘Jimmy’ character; off the rails and
passionate. Not to say I’m not passionate, but he’s kind of got that
natural charisma and is a bit more ready to take things off. He’s kind
of like a garden hose on full pelt.
SM: Have you told your brother that he’s partly an inspiration for the performance?
XS: I think he can see that. He was there when I was shooting, as
well. He’s an actor too, and I was going to him for a lot of advice, and
talking about it as much as possible.
SM: You mentioned all the time you had to spend in the water.
Obviously, there are bad days on every set, let alone when you’re waist
deep in water the whole time.
XS: Indeed, or deeper.
SM: Exactly, yeah. Were there any particularly tough days, particularly tough shots; a moment, or even a dramatic moment?
XS: The dramatic stuff is always challenging, and it should be. It
should be like dragging a suitcase up the stairs in your head. That’s
the way it kind of always should be. The surf stuff; there were a few
hairy days. It usually happens when you get comfortable. “This isn’t so
bad.” Then you turn around and there’s a giant wave eclipsing the sun.
“Oh, dear.” It’s kind of counter-intuitive, because you have to paddle
towards this gigantic sum of water. There were a couple of times where I
got buried, and held under; dragged along. You get told to relax and
hold your breath, obviously. I was down for quite a while thinking, “Oh
yeah, this might be it. Wow I’m not coming up.” And then I kind of got
washed up on this reef, and cut up my feet and hands. The guy on the jet
ski trashed his jet ski on the rocks to get me out of there.
SM: So there are bad days. That’s a fair call.
XS: Having said that, it feels like a therapy session.
SM: You can lie down on the couch if you’d feel better.
XS: Thanks very much. Cheers, I appreciate it. I think my naiveté
about the whole thing was helpful, because if I had known how full on it
got out there, I might have thought twice about it. When everyone’s so
enthusiastic about it and pumped up, you want to launch yourself into
those experiences.
SM: It’s a bit like when toddlers fall over, they don’t brace
themselves, because they’re not afraid, so they don’t hurt themselves.
XS: If someone had sat me down and gone, “You could die out there
mate, be careful,” I would have gone, “F***ing hell.” Everyone was like,
“Nah mate, you’ll be right!”
SM: Did the directors send you and Myles and Sam on any bonding excursions? Did you get any time before hand together?
XS: Well, Sam’s character is kind of the nomad. He kind of drifts in
and out. So, it’s nice if he has an enigmatic mystique going on. Whereas
Myles and I have to have a real close, tight-knit banter and the whole
brother thing. Most of the rehearsal was just out beyond the break;
chatting and just getting to know one another. And then, it’s also in
the writing. You don’t have to do too much work. It’s all there.
SM: You were in A Few Best Men last year, which was one of the biggest films at the box office, locally. You were also in The Loved Ones a couple years ago, which unfortunately didn’t quite find the audience in cinemas.
XS: Too much piracy.
SM: Thankfully, it did find it on DVD, and that film’s got a great
cult following now. There is such a spotlight on the box office of
Australian films; it’s a pitfall of our funding structure here. When
you’re on set, does that pressure loom over a production? Do you try to
put it out of your mind?
XS: It’s an interesting question. I don’t think I’ve ever thought
about it. I don’t think it’s ever once occurred to me that there’s
pressure on this film to make money. Maybe that’s because there’s an
assumption that Australian films won’t make money anyway. I just don’t
think about that at all. My focus is on being available in the moment,
and doing the best job I can do. Turning up on time and being prepared.
If you thought about the box office when you’re making a film, you’re
probably not in the right business. I
think Australian audiences got burnt a little bit by films that got
made in a particular period of time. I don’t know what your perspective
is. It became that thing where people would look in the newspaper and
say, “Should we see a comedy, should we see a western, or a thriller, or
an Australian film?” It had kind of become a genre on its own, and
that’s not right. It ought to be viewed as a part of that whole mix.
SM: You’re right. There can be Australian comedies and dramas and action movies. The Loved Ones just
came out in the US, last year, after playing the festival circuit a
number of years ago. Has it been heartening to see it get the audience
it deserves, slowly, but to actually have that cult following? Or do you
not feel it’s got the following it deserves?
XS: It’s a classy, well made film. It’s intelligently dealt with and
spooky and eerie, and the whole thing is like looking into this
grotesque doll’s house. I always knew that [director] Sean Byrne was a
great filmmaker and clever. It is a shame to see it not reach the
audience it deserves. I’m not surprised it’s got that cult following.
But it was kind of cursed in a lot of ways. There were a lot of
opportunities for it to cut through and work; for more people to see it.
Those kind of fell through.
SM: The release was pushed a few times, wasn’t it?
XS: Yeah, there was the release. I don’t deal with any of that side
of things, so I don’t really know. Perhaps it could have gone out into
cinemas earlier than it did. Who knows with these things?
SM: You took Two Mothers to Sundance earlier this year. How was that experience? Was that your first time at Sundance?
XS: Yeah, Sundance is amazing. It’s basically one street and you get a
real sense of community. Something like Margaret River. Everyone’s
enthusiastic about film and it’s not a dressy, fashion-y festival
because it’s so cold. It was an interesting response. It was a
fascinating response, because the material – the film’s subject matter –
is controversial in some ways. It was kind of met with uncomfortable
laughter and people don’t know how to deal with it. Maybe it was just
that particular audience. I was totally fascinated by its response, so
it bodes well.
SM: It’ll be interesting to see it when it comes out. It will have people talking, so you’re probably eager.
XS: Yeah, I’ll be interested to know how an Australian audience processes that.
SM: Yeah, for sure. We might be a bit more open minded, hopefully.
XS: “Oh mate, that kind of s*** happens all the time.”
SM: “Down at the old mate’s place.” You’ve balanced international
features with Australian stuff, and are still doing Australian features.
Bigger scale productions like Eclipse and Anonymous. Do
you have a preference? Is it novel to be part of a big machine, or do
you feel you might get lost in the mix in those bigger ones?
XS: I’m not too focused on being the centre of attention. It really
comes down to the material and the people you’re working with. It’s
great fun being onAnonymous; the costumes are amazing
and they recreated the Rose Theatre. Also, the major difference is
you’ve got more time to experiment with things. Often, but not always,
in Australian film, a second take is a luxury. You’ve got to be [snaps
fingers] first time, every time. It’s nice to be able to experiment and
try different things in a scene. I suppose that happens in really low
budget stuff because people are interested in collaborating and trying
something different, so I don’t have a particular preference between the
two, but they both have their own pros and cons. Not too many cons
though.
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O’Shea’s The Exchange has acquired international rights to CBGB, the
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Miller (Bottle Shock) is directing the film that stars Alan Rickman as
Hilly Kristal, the CBGB founder who took chances on such bands as
Blondie, Television, the Ramones, the Talking Heads, Dead Boys and The
Police. Malin Akerman, Rupert Grint, Johnny Galecki, Ashley Greene,
Freddy Rodriguez, Justin Bartha, Joel David Moore and Donal Logue also
form part of the large ensemble cast. The Exchange will offer the film
to overseas buyers in Cannes; Paradigm has domestic.